Treating schizophrenia without drugs? Very interesting & refreshing post pinkmetalgirl. Treating schizophrenia without drugs? Dec 27, 2009 #1 Treating schizophrenia without drugs? If you'd like to talk with people who know what it's like join now. If the real promise of cognitive therapy can be fulfilled, we may at last have a genuinely effective, relatively cheap, and side-effect-free alternative to antipsychotics for those patients who don't wish to take them. It’s great to see you. The Nice guidance on psychosis and schizophrenia, updated this year, is unequivocal: "The systematic review of economic evidence showed that provision of CBT to people with schizophrenia in the UK improved clinical outcomes at no additional cost. Schizophrenia Forum. Psychosis isn't viewed as a biological illness that one either has or does not have. There are many CT for psychosis is still evolving, and we think that evolution should prioritise three key areas. The latest guidelines from the UK's National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (Nice) recommend it for those at risk of psychosis and, when combined with medication, for people with an ongoing problem. Welcome to the Forums at Psych Central! JavaScript is disabled. At its core is the idea that the patient should be encouraged to talk about their experiences – just as they would for every other psychological condition. And you may develop tremors reminiscent of Parkinson's disease." However, the majority of people that go against standard treatment protocol end up suffering more than necessary. Tags antipsychotic medication people schizophrenia treatment; A. Apotheosis Guest. First, we must focus on understanding and treating individual psychotic experiences. The tide is turning towards gentler methods, from talking therapies to brain training, says Clare Wilson. It should not be used as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. "Ah," says the doctor decisively, "what you need is medication X. Antipsychotic drugs may do more harm than good. It just seems so abnormal to need medication to think straight, doesn't it? No wonder some people with schizophrenia refuse to take them, Antipsychotics can cause drowsiness, weight gain, tremors and sexual dysfunction. Assuming that psychosis is primarily a biological brain problem, clinicians prescribe an antipsychotic medication and everyone does their level best to get the patient to take it, often for long periods. Unfortunately, dropout rates are high. Since the 1950s, the illness has generally been treated using antipsychotic drugs – which, as with so many medications, were discovered by chance. Of course the side effects are unpleasant but the side effects of nót taking them are far worse. "Some patients find that sex becomes a problem. This prompted the psychiatrist Pierre Deniker to give the drug to some of his most troubled patients. Nevertheless, most of the meta-analyses of CT's efficacy for psychosis, when added to standard treatment, have indicated definite (albeit modest) benefits for patients, with the latest showing that CT is better than other psychological treatments for reducing delusions and hallucinations. Watch this space. This finding was supported by economic modelling undertaken for this guideline, which suggested that provision of CBT might result in net cost savings to the NHS, associated with a reduction in future hospitalisation rates.". But a major reason is the side-effects. Jason is a psychology writer. Welcome! Always seek the advice of your doctor, psychiatrist or other qualified health professional with any questions you may have regarding a mental health or other medical condition. There's good evidence for it. Rethinking schizophrenia: Taming demons without drugs. And in the long term the drug may actually shrink your brain … ". These factors will vary from person to person, so what is produced is a bespoke account of the individual's experience, which is then used to guide treatment. It’s great to see you. They are costly items: the NHS spends more on these medications than it does for any other psychiatric drug, including antidepressants. It is estimated that six months after first being prescribed them, as many as 50% of patients are either taking the drugs haphazardly or not at all. These vary from drug to drug, but they're common and for many people are worse than the symptoms they are designed to treat. In addition, antipsychotics don't work for everyone. Since the 1950s the strategy of all too many NHS mental health teams has been a simple one. You must log in or register to reply here. The term has been used as a catch-all for an assortment of unusual thoughts and feelings that often have no intrinsic connections, and aren't qualitatively different from those experienced by the general population. It should not be used as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. anybody lost God to schizophrenia. For example, on December 9, 2013, The Washington Post published the article “A Psychiatrist Thinks Some Patients Are Better Off Without Antipsychotic Drugs,” 1 as if this were a novel idea. Many other antipsychotic drugs have followed in chlorpromazine's wake and today these medications comprise 10% of total NHS psychiatric prescriptions. There are documented cases of people making full recoveries without following psychiatric order. These are early days. There can be little doubt that these drugs make a positive difference, reducing delusions and hallucinations and making relapse less likely – provided, that is, the patient takes their medication. An individual troubled by hearing voices will be helped to understand what's triggering these voices, and to develop a more confident, empowering relationship with them. Our forum members are people, maybe like yourself, who experience mental health difficulties or who have had them at some point in their life. The Mental Health Forum is run by Together For Change, Suite 223, 266 Banbury Road, Oxford, United Kingdom, OX2 7DL Working together, the patient and therapist develop a model of what's causing the experiences, and why they're recurring. And finally, we must listen to what patients want from their treatment – for example, by focusing on improving levels of wellbeing, which tend to be very low among people with schizophrenia. Second, we must build on the recent transformation in understanding the causes of psychotic experiences, taking one factor at a time (insomnia, say, or worry), developing an intervention to change it, and then observing the effects of that intervention on an individual's difficulties. Or feel drowsy. anybody lost God to schizophrenia. 32 thoughts on “Treating schizophrenia without drugs” Jonathan Meline says: March 23, 2009 at 7:21 pm I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and now if I had an evaluation they could not label me this way. Always seek the advice of your doctor, psychiatrist or other qualified health professional with any questions you may have regarding a mental health or other medical condition. Their symptoms improved dramatically, and a major breakthrough in the treatment of psychosis seemed to have arrived. Schizophrenia Forum. I do think you can recover naturally the main problem is it takes time and people/society want instant results...so like they said a place where you can live and be allowed to work through it may be good for some people,especially if its cannabis induced first episodes i think they should be taken somewhere so they dont smoke any more cannabis.